Rank

[Harold Henderson]

All that matters is fly an aircraft appropriate for the route, departure and arrival airports, is an active AA aircraft (unless you are Retro qual'd), and that you are qualified to fly. Exception - Checkrides. You must fly the designated aircraft.

Oh, yes. You probably don't want to be the next pilot to fly an aircraft after Bert -- unless it has been through maintenance to check the landing gear.

[Norberto Rivera]

Why do we have to keep bringing this up???????? I told you the struts were bad, and the tires were bald, and there was debris on the runway, we hit a bird with the right mains and a deer with the left. I swear it wasn't my fault!!!!!!

[Harold Henderson]

[Tom Pletzke]

Why do we have to keep bringing this up???????? I told you the struts were bad, and the tires were bald, and there was debris on the runway, we hit a bird with the right mains and a deer with the left. I swear it wasn't my fault!!!!!!

This gets bigger every time, like a fish story. The truth is Bert was sipping a hot cup of coffee and a small bird startled him and he spilled coffee on his lap causing a rather rough landing and some damage was done to the underbelly of both the plane and Bert.

[Todd Meek]

OK and how would i know which aircraft is a appropriate for which flight

Well a good rule of thumb we follow here at KLAX is whichever aircraft that could realistically make the flight. I wouldn't be too secure flying an ATR or SAAB from KLAX to PHNL (honolulu) for example. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have enough fuel to make it. Now if your choosing a flight more like KLAX to KLAS which is a pretty short flight, you could use either the Second officer aircraft or the Trainee Aircraft, that would be up to you whichever one you felt like flying.

[Todd Meek]

OK thank you and can any one explain like what do i have to do to become SECOND OFFICER Checkride because i don't really understand much by

Specific directions for the flight

Well as stated in the Pilots Handbook, you have to fly at least 25 hours which it appears you have. Then you hub manager will issue you the Second officer checkride. You will receive the packet in your email which will look alot like the package you received for the trainee checkride, just this one will be for the Second officer checkride. Follow the directions included in the checkride packet, record your flight with the flight recorder and submit it using the link on our website. The training department will evaluate the checkride and if you pass you will upgraded to Second Officer. if you fail, you have to redo the flight again. If you haven't received the Second Officer Checkride in your email, write your hub manager an Email requesting it. It's easy to miss pilots that are ready for promotions and/or forget to send one out, just takes a quick reminder and he will send it right out.

[Greg Gemelli]

Why do we have to keep bringing this up???????? I told you the struts were bad, and the tires were bald, and there was debris on the runway, we hit a bird with the right mains and a deer with the left. I swear it wasn't my fault!!!!!!

Hit a bird?? Like this lol....

[Norberto Rivera]

Why do we have to keep bringing this up???????? I told you the struts were bad, and the tires were bald, and there was debris on the runway, we hit a bird with the right mains and a deer with the left. I swear it wasn't my fault!!!!!!

Hit a bird?? Like this lol....

Now Greg I know you've always wanted to emulate me, but this is going a bit too far I think.

About how much damage was that btw money-wise?

[Greg Gemelli]

Bert,

I honestly have no idea but I'm sure it wasn't cheap. First off I wasn't flying lol. This happened about 8 months ago on departure out of SLC. The entire radar assembly was totaled and sadly despite EMTs waiting at the gate the pelican didn't pull through.

If I were to guess at the cost it would be about 10 grand but it may have been much more. Airplane parts are deceivingly expensive. For example I was told a while back that each propeller blade (4 per engine) costs just under 50 grand. I'll ask our MX guys; I leave on a trip tomorrow.

[Norberto Rivera]

LOL Talk about sticking to your briefing!

Although this reminds me of Bill Engval's routine about hitting a deer with an airplane on landing. His wife asked "Oh my god, were you on the ground?!" He replies "No, but Blitzen won't be making the run this year." Here's your sign!!!