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KJFK Aerogal and Jet Blue near miss

Posted: 10-04-2010 04:08 PM
by Arturo Carvajal
Dear friends

Last Sunday a RWY 13R and 13L Aerogal Captain confussion made a dangerous incident in KJFK.

Here is the link:

http://www.civilianaviation.co.uk/forum ... 13&p=12690

Arturo Carvajal
AAV905

Re: KJFK Aerogal and Jet Blue near miss

Posted: 10-05-2010 06:33 AM
by Norberto Rivera
Wayne Szot wrote:Sounds like he tuned the wrong runway for an ILS landing... intercepted the wrong localizer.
How exactly do you do that???? They're totally different frequencies!!! :lol:


I think this is a classic case of a foreign pilot not being familiar with the airspace. It happens to me in Europe often. I think the FAA should start requiring a certain amount of time in the right seat for foreign pilots operating in these high-traffic airspaces. I think that is a fair requirement that would help pilots become familiar with the airports they are flying into before actually being in command of a 767 with hundreds of souls on board. There is very little room for error in the NY airspace, but most of us have heard the funny (in retrospect) recordings of irate NY area controllers frustrated with pilots who can barely understand the language let alone know their way around the airport. If I were flying an a/c into a foreign airspace I would want as much time as possible to familiarize myself with the area and procedures before actually being in command of the aircraft.

Re: KJFK Aerogal and Jet Blue near miss

Posted: 10-05-2010 09:06 AM
by Arturo Carvajal
CANARSIE approach to RWY 13R and 13L is visual and very difficult to perform.

Aerogal Captain answered to ATC "Clear to land " missing answer the runway ident "13L" as ATC cleared him.

Its easy confuse 13R as 13L in visual CANARSIE low flight level approach.

United pilot waiting to Takeoff 13L was the captain who start the first alarm of AEROGAL wrong landing RWY.

Lucky everybody.